Monday, April 29, 2013

South Vietnam was NOT a Rebellion


  • Original Oatmeal D. Reunification Day
  • Nguyễn Thi Yes...On April 30th, all Vietnamese have one day off from work to celebrate an important national events. April 30th, 1975 was a day that marked the end of Vietnam War and the start of a transition period leading to the formal reunification of Vietnam, bringing peace and liberty for the people and paving the way for the sustainable development of Vietnam.
  • Original Oatmeal End of the Vietnamese Civil War. Reunification means uniting a divided a country. It would be like uniting North and South Korea.
  • Nguyễn Thi But we succeed, becoming a big home.
  • Original Oatmeal North Vietnam succeeded but South Vietnam failed.
  • Nguyễn Thi Why? Economy in South Vietnam now has developed better.
  • Original Oatmeal South Vietnam did not want socialism and communism.
  • Original Oatmeal South Vietnam is doing a little better than North Vietnam because South Vietnam is a little less controlled by socialism and communism.
  • Nguyễn Thi I don't want to discuss this subject. But i think all people in Viet Nam is in a home. We have belieed in Vietmanese Communist Party. End this subject here!!! This is a delicate issue.
  • Original Oatmeal You do not want to discuss because you know that what I am saying is true. South Vietnam did not believe in the Vietnamese Communist Party. If they did believe in the Communist party, then there would have been no Vietnam Civil War.
  • Nguyễn Thi No, i haven't ever gone to South VN.
  • Nguyễn Thi I i think you know which country created a war in our country. They came to South Vn and bult up a illegal government by their controling
  • Original Oatmeal I lived around Hanoi and North Vietnam for 2 months from December 2012 to February 2013 and now I have been around Saigon and South Vietnam for the past 3 months and I am looking at the differences and similarities.
  • Original Oatmeal The USA did not do that.
  • Original Oatmeal Capitalism is not illegal.
  • Nguyễn Thi Capitalism is not illegal., but the government was built up in South VN to fight against the VN government is illegal
  • Original Oatmeal South Vietnam created that government in South Vietnam because they were losing their freedoms and rights. They did not want communism and socialism to lead them into poverty, depravity, decline, famine, food shortages. North Vietnam does illegal things. The North Vietnam government is keeping the people of Vietnam tied down and dependent on them. The war started because people wanted their freedoms back. They wanted to have freedoms that the USA has.
  • Nguyễn Thi You need to answer who did stand behide to support this rebel
  • Original Oatmeal It was not a rebellion. It was not bad. South Vietnam wanted clean water. South Vietnam wanted free education. People in Vietnam have to pay money to send their children to school because that is what socialism and communism of North Vietnam demands. That is evil and that is illegal. The USA did not start anything. The USA came in to help a war that was already taking place. The USA did not create the Freedom Fighters of Saigon. The USA did not start the Civil War. It would not be a Reunification Day had the USA started it. Had USA started it, this holiday would be called Freedom Day or Independence Day.
  • 2 comments:

    1. Joey you are vastly oversimplifying a complex war and time period. The U.S. did not come in to "help a war that was already taking place" unless perhaps you mean the struggle against French colonialism...

      Contrary to your assertions south Vietnam was mostly propped up by the U.S. there was no "civil war" among the Vietnamese, the division of Vietnam along the 17th parallel was called for by the 1954 Geneva Accords and was meant to be a temporary boundary until the Reunification election of 1956 when the people of Vietnam could choose their own government. If the Diem/south Vietnam government were as popular as you say they would not have insisted on the cancellation of those elections as they did. But don't take my word for it. Here's what President Dwight D. Eisenhower had to say:

      “I have never talked or corresponded with a person knowledgeable in Indochinese affairs who did not agree that had elections been held as of the time of the fighting, a possible 80 per cent of the population would have voted for the communist Ho Chi Minh as their leader.”

      I think you would benefit from the following debate.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k9aTeoDBxw

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    2. Jeremy, you are wrong. There was a Vietnamese civil war. If there was not a civil war, they would not call one of their holidays the Reunification Day. You cannot unify a country that was never divided. If Vietnam was divided, then that is why they have the Reunification Day and that is why it was the Vietnam Civil War as well. If Vietnam was not divided, then it was not a civil war and they should not call it a Reunification of a country that did not need to be unified. Why didn't southern and northern Vietnam surround the United States and defeat them sooner? Why did that not happen?

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