The
person/ account member I want to mention here is Original Oatmeal Joey
Arnold who have posted many nonsense topics and stupid spammed replies.
His profile: http://www.couchsurfing.org/profile.html?id=5GVYSQ4BP
As you guys may know about his activities recently. He seems not to
understand the human language at all since keeping asking the same
questions.
To my understanding, he is trying to get attention from us to get help/
support/ sympathy since repeating the same chore: I only have $400, I am
American. Wow ! such an American !~
Do you guys know any mode in this web CS to report his account as a spam?!
We are not a charity fund or a social free information center. Kick him out of the group~
We may give the warning to all members not to reply his questions !
I
totally agree with u Trang. He left a lots of spam comments on alomost
members'posts. Nonsense words like "nice", "maybe", "not sure". So
annoying. That account should be banned soon i hope.
he's
a troll, i'm pretty sure he's enjoying all the attention and simply
takes please in being annoying. Sadly, CS updated the web site some
months ago and they didn't do a very good job, leaving the service
susceptible to spam like that.
The best thing to do is for everybody to completely ignore him, and if
he gets no attention, he'll go away (...and probably find some other
people to annoy)
I've
seen Oatmeal Arnold post something similar quite a few months ago.
Guess he really does love Vietnam. But honestly guy... Vietnam has no
place for you. Only visitors who can contribute or appreciate its
beauty. Respect its laws and policies and just follow procedure and
maybe they'll grant you another visa.
haizza,
I am a new one in couchsurfing. I have just answer and accept his couch
request. I only think that he needs a help in our country. may be i am
stupid and risk?
I
want to travel the world. A school told me they would hire me. I came
to Vietnam but the school did not hire me. Now I am in Saigon looking
for work. I will figure things out. I am not annoying. I am not spam. I
will get back on my feet again. Things will get better. I will not give
up in life. I just want to travel the world and help others and make
people laugh and smile with one Original Oatmeal at a time.
Couch
Surfing illegally deleted my account and profile on their website. I
gave CF $20 USD and I want my money back. I will sue them. I am very
angry. I was not given any real warnings about anything that I did
wrong. I did not do anything wrong. I did not violate any rules on CF.
This website did not give me any warnings.
dude
grow up , you an say all you want about the school didnt hire you and
all your bullsh!t , its happened to the best of us , grow up and get a
life mate , this is a place for people to connect and meet each other
not for people like you to annoy the fu*k out of us all
I got pretty fired up after reading this thread---here are my thoughts on it.
Y'know, for a social community that prides itself on being inclusive and welcoming, I'm getting a very different vibe here.
It seems that CS talks a good game, but the reservoir of goodwill kind of dries up when the rubber hits the road.
Joey seems like a nice enough fellow, (you youtube video is weirdly
hilarious--I'm getting a definite early Peter Jackson vibe here...any
"Bad Taste" fans out there...no?)
He doesn't seem to have threatened anyone, or been cruel, a jerk, or a bad host--y'know stuff that would matter.
His capital crime seems to have been having bad social skills, not picking up on cues, and being repetitive.
In this department I have nothing but sympathy and empathy for the
guy---being notoriously hit-or-miss in my own social interactions in my
misspent youth....actually the jury's still out if I really mastered the
seldom mentioned but quite important art of socialization.
Speaking for myself and any other social retards out there, I think it's
pretty lame how Joey got nailed to the wall because he's a bit annoying
and "not cool." I can tell you that it's not an easy go in life if
you're not socially adept, and it probably doesn't do much too help the
situation, when you get publicly humiliated on a forum after you try to
reach out.
Talk about kicking a man when he's down.
The "mean girls in High school" impression isn't really a very open-minded or pleasant way to deal with those who are different.
It's become verboten to pick on people of different races religions or
sexual orientations...heck, even nerds have experienced a sudden
respectability and 'not cool to made fun of' status. but tragically it's
still open-season on people who are awkward or not all that good in
playing it cool.
We need a new PR guy.
But, I figure we're all flawed human beings and all deserving of getting some slack cut for our own foibles.
Over-wrought moral summarizing statement time
Isn't there a little "Joey oatmeal" in all of us??
@ Ryan Coleman:
I wasn't gonna respond on this topic anymore, but well, here's my
thoughts: A number of people (including myself) genuinely tried to help
this guy out - he was rude, ignorant and selfish. Zero appreciation for
the people offering help. Only constant demands to give him the answer
he wants and feels he's somehow entitled to because he's american.
The CS community is open and inclusive, but does that mean we need to
tolerate racism and close-mindedness? I would say absolutely not and
since he doesn't seem to posses any bit of good manners nor does he seem
to have any interest in true involvement in the community (all his
posts are all about him), i'd say this is not a community for him.
I appreciated CS for a long time before it became a commercial web site.
Now they turned into a business and more and more users like this guy,
who are much better fit on twitter or myspace, are trying to rudely
butt into CS.
yes - it's a welcoming community - but it's a community of 'give and
get' - and if somebody's only looking to demand more for themselves and
offers nothing, not even a 'thank you' in return - it's not a community
for them.
Thanks Matt D, I totally agree with your opinion~
For you guys reference, all of his nonsense posts/ threads have been
deleted so far, and you guys experience no stupid comments/threads (uh,
oh, nice, I paid $20...) All problems just about HIS problems. Indeed,
he may share on his FB or another locations.
Dont jump into conclusion when you just read this thread.
I dont say thay he is not a talented guy, everyone has their own capability, I respect that,
But as long as you dont respect the whole community (here is
Couchsurfing), you will definitely be kicked out of the human beings
group~
I
did click on his Fb last time when trying to define who this nerd
truely is. Saw that he has many vietnamese friends who are also trying
to help him with his visa. They help him, provide him information/
procedures, after getting no response from him but his same continous
demands/ questions, they start to get mad~
Not sure its good to share this truth but sadly we Vietnamese (in
general) have disease of "white people admiration". We are just the
same, bad ones, good ones everywhere and trying to get fit~
@ Ryan Coleman:
I am not about to write more, but a warning for you:
Do not judge when you do not know who I am. Its free for you to express your opinion here about the topic.
At least not just only me who could gather up enough information to define who this American nerd is & what he wants~
if he is just a guy with bad social skills this thread is not a nice thing.
if he is a troll then this thread will make him post more. The worst
thing you can do about a troll is to pay attention to him and especially
argue because of him.
In either case this thread should not be continued.
If somebody is annoyed by his repetitive posts and lack of good manners
he can leave him a negative reference stating this: that's what
reference feature is for. Creating a thread about this is not a good
idea because of reasons pointed above.
Repetitive posts should be flagged and deleted by admins, not answered with anger (again the same reasons as above apply).
I
think the purpose of this thread was to give a heads up but ended up in
a different direction. However, the name calling is going a bit far on
this one. I think bashing is for other social medias and not CS.
I
agree with Matt's opinion. I think everyone here was quite tolerant and
helpful at the first sight, but Joey seemed not to care about what
people advised. He was all about himself and his visa drama. And he
posted too many threads with the same thing. Personally I don't like him
(i just felt he was trying to advertise himself and his social networks
- by the most stupid way of course), and in general, anyone who was
trying to help him realized he had some problems (not only bad social
skills but annoying attitude) finally. In my opinion, it's necessary for
the community to warn other members about some not-nice people in the
site, because maybe they will host/meet those people once day and
instead of having a nice time, all may become the pain in the ass. Ryan
had his point, but he didn't know the real situation and made Trang
upset. I just wanna say everyone has his own opinion, and has right to
like or dislike someone, but when you join a community (I refer CS),
make good things for others, I mean Trang was right to start this thread
to warn people about that guy. Too many people wasted their time for
him, and it was the time to tell them the truth.
Ryan
Coleman, you a fan of Star Wars? I do like Peter Jackson. There is a
bit of Oatmeal in all of us. I am in Saigon now and things do seem
better down here. I like asking a bunch of people many questions so I
can compare answers. I am not proud of my youtube videos. i want to be
the next Will Smith. I might be getting a 3 month single entry Vietnam
tourist visa extension at chi Cafe in Saigon for $42 USD. I might be
signing a work contract Thursday with a school. Maybe they will take
care of my visa. http://youtube.com/OriginalOatmeal
I agree with you on the inferiority complex that a lot of people have
(interesting matter would like to discuss this some day with more
people). But I don't see how this is relevant now. You come across as an
intelligent person, don't you think its better just to ignore him
rather than using these strong words. Obviously in they eyes of many he
lacks social competence but that should not be the reason to get this
angry. He contacted me as well, several times.
Dear Joey, the fact that a lot of people within the couch surfing
society perceive your behavior as unpleasant (euphemism) should make you
think about it..
Tons
of people love me. A few bullies come up to me and tell me that I am
not likable. New Star in Bac Ninh, Vietnam and Muong Museum in Hoa Binh
told me I suck. Doctors said when I was 6 years old that I would never
pass the 6th grade. I ended up doing years of college at a bunch of
schools. I do not lack social skills. I know how to reinvent the social
world. I just don't follow the politically correct social rules. people
think I am crazy for thinking outside of the box. Like Taco Bell, think
outside the bun and have fun having it your way, good to the last drop
or your money back.
@Matt:
you should unsubscribe from Hanoi group. Actually I always unsubscribe
from any group I join, so I don't have too many emails in my inbox.
BTW, I think everyone should ignore Joey if they feel annoyed by him.
After I read that he needed to see doctors when he was a child, I think I
should have been more tolerant.
Be happy folks!
You
can change your email settings on Couch Surfing. I use Google Email and
have my CS emails automatically sent to certain CS folders that I make.
I try my best to be organized in life because you will always run into
annoying things and people no matter where you go in life.
Unfortunately, people spend their whole life trying to run.
Hi
guys, that Joey is being annoying in Saigon now! He hurt a girl, live
with poor people's help and pay nothing... Now, he becomes dangerous for
us in Saigon that he has a hundred of his acct in couchsurfung with
random names of girl and boy! Let come to SAIGON couchsurfing to save
us, us VN couchsurfing, specially to save some honest Vietnamese people
they will be his victim! PLEASE HELP,
His profile: http://www.couchsurfing.org/profile.html?id=5GVYSQ4BP
As you guys may know about his activities recently. He seems not to understand the human language at all since keeping asking the same questions.
To my understanding, he is trying to get attention from us to get help/ support/ sympathy since repeating the same chore: I only have $400, I am American. Wow ! such an American !~
Do you guys know any mode in this web CS to report his account as a spam?!
We are not a charity fund or a social free information center. Kick him out of the group~
We may give the warning to all members not to reply his questions !
For a safer and helpful CS community (as usual)
T
Please go into his page and click on the upright of the screen
Dont u understand human language??
@Trang: Go to his profile and you'll see a report button on the right.
The best thing to do is for everybody to completely ignore him, and if he gets no attention, he'll go away (...and probably find some other people to annoy)
OriginalOatmeal@Gmail.com
(84) 0-163-425-1695
Good luck with sue case, idiot !
Such the annoying nerd~
You are the rubbish of the State, but Thank you, Vietnam is not the bin to contain you~!
Get lost idiot ~
Y'know, for a social community that prides itself on being inclusive and welcoming, I'm getting a very different vibe here.
It seems that CS talks a good game, but the reservoir of goodwill kind of dries up when the rubber hits the road.
Joey seems like a nice enough fellow, (you youtube video is weirdly hilarious--I'm getting a definite early Peter Jackson vibe here...any "Bad Taste" fans out there...no?)
He doesn't seem to have threatened anyone, or been cruel, a jerk, or a bad host--y'know stuff that would matter.
His capital crime seems to have been having bad social skills, not picking up on cues, and being repetitive.
In this department I have nothing but sympathy and empathy for the guy---being notoriously hit-or-miss in my own social interactions in my misspent youth....actually the jury's still out if I really mastered the seldom mentioned but quite important art of socialization.
Speaking for myself and any other social retards out there, I think it's pretty lame how Joey got nailed to the wall because he's a bit annoying and "not cool." I can tell you that it's not an easy go in life if you're not socially adept, and it probably doesn't do much too help the situation, when you get publicly humiliated on a forum after you try to reach out.
Talk about kicking a man when he's down.
The "mean girls in High school" impression isn't really a very open-minded or pleasant way to deal with those who are different.
It's become verboten to pick on people of different races religions or sexual orientations...heck, even nerds have experienced a sudden respectability and 'not cool to made fun of' status. but tragically it's still open-season on people who are awkward or not all that good in playing it cool.
We need a new PR guy.
But, I figure we're all flawed human beings and all deserving of getting some slack cut for our own foibles.
Over-wrought moral summarizing statement time
Isn't there a little "Joey oatmeal" in all of us??
I wasn't gonna respond on this topic anymore, but well, here's my thoughts: A number of people (including myself) genuinely tried to help this guy out - he was rude, ignorant and selfish. Zero appreciation for the people offering help. Only constant demands to give him the answer he wants and feels he's somehow entitled to because he's american.
The CS community is open and inclusive, but does that mean we need to tolerate racism and close-mindedness? I would say absolutely not and since he doesn't seem to posses any bit of good manners nor does he seem to have any interest in true involvement in the community (all his posts are all about him), i'd say this is not a community for him.
I appreciated CS for a long time before it became a commercial web site. Now they turned into a business and more and more users like this guy, who are much better fit on twitter or myspace, are trying to rudely butt into CS.
yes - it's a welcoming community - but it's a community of 'give and get' - and if somebody's only looking to demand more for themselves and offers nothing, not even a 'thank you' in return - it's not a community for them.
that's my thoughts.
For you guys reference, all of his nonsense posts/ threads have been deleted so far, and you guys experience no stupid comments/threads (uh, oh, nice, I paid $20...) All problems just about HIS problems. Indeed, he may share on his FB or another locations.
Dont jump into conclusion when you just read this thread.
I dont say thay he is not a talented guy, everyone has their own capability, I respect that,
But as long as you dont respect the whole community (here is Couchsurfing), you will definitely be kicked out of the human beings group~
I will not delete this thread.
Trang
Not sure its good to share this truth but sadly we Vietnamese (in general) have disease of "white people admiration". We are just the same, bad ones, good ones everywhere and trying to get fit~
I am not about to write more, but a warning for you:
Do not judge when you do not know who I am. Its free for you to express your opinion here about the topic.
At least not just only me who could gather up enough information to define who this American nerd is & what he wants~
Trang
if he is a troll then this thread will make him post more. The worst thing you can do about a troll is to pay attention to him and especially argue because of him.
In either case this thread should not be continued.
If somebody is annoyed by his repetitive posts and lack of good manners he can leave him a negative reference stating this: that's what reference feature is for. Creating a thread about this is not a good idea because of reasons pointed above.
Repetitive posts should be flagged and deleted by admins, not answered with anger (again the same reasons as above apply).
http://youtube.com/OriginalOatmeal
I agree with you on the inferiority complex that a lot of people have (interesting matter would like to discuss this some day with more people). But I don't see how this is relevant now. You come across as an intelligent person, don't you think its better just to ignore him rather than using these strong words. Obviously in they eyes of many he lacks social competence but that should not be the reason to get this angry. He contacted me as well, several times.
Dear Joey, the fact that a lot of people within the couch surfing society perceive your behavior as unpleasant (euphemism) should make you think about it..
good luck and love to all!
It seems that you are an intelligent person so that you keep quiet & ignore things like that? Not me !
As I told before & Bien Nguyen's recent post, I do not stand still here for him to mess up with this Hanoi Group~
Dont get me wrong, i am not angry at all. I know what I do & what I talk/ write here.
Have fun ~
T
lol, And you know that and didnt tell me about this post.
not only me tell this same thing to you before!
BTW, I think everyone should ignore Joey if they feel annoyed by him. After I read that he needed to see doctors when he was a child, I think I should have been more tolerant.
Be happy folks!